Dekmar Trades 2018 Review
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Honesty
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Quality
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Cost
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Support
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Verified Trades
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User Experience
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Summary
A year ago, TradingSchools.Org took a huge leap of faith and wrote a glowing review of Dekmar Trades. A little known day trading service that specialized in penny stocks.
Truth be told, I expected Sean Dekmar to quickly crash and burn. I simply could not believe that anyone could consistently earn a worthy income in a market best known for scams and scoundrels. It turns out that Sean Dekmar is an extremely skilled market operator.
We recently challenged Sean Dekmar with a tiny account in the faint hope that he could generate exceptional profits. He beat our expectations. His story is a true inspiration to aspiring day traders.
100% verified trading performance.
Thanks for reading today’s update on Sean Dekmar of Dekmar Trades
On April 5th, 2017, I wrote a review about Sean Dekmar of Dekmar Trades. I gave Sean a pretty good rating. You can read the original review here.
As many TradingSchools.Org readers are probably already aware, I am not a big fan of day trading. In particular, penny stocks day trading. In my opinion, penny stocks are pretty much a ‘hustlers paradise’ filled with scoundrels and scallywags.
Penny stocks are not investments. Not even close. They more resemble a theme park ride, where you pay a fee and get on board for some sort of ride.
The ride is usually gut-wrenching, induces vomiting, and quickly weeds out the faint-hearted. At my advanced age of 48, I am afraid I don’t have the stomach or the courage to venture into these shark-infested waters. A game best suited for the young, or the young at heart.
Sean Dekmar is young. In fact, at age 24 he is just a puppy. However, don’t let his age fool you. Through sheer willpower, an outsized portion of youthful ignorance, and a unique ‘feel’ for this specialized market…he has somehow figured out a way to earn a pretty decent living.
The August Update
After the original review was published, a large crowd of naysayers lined up proclaiming that the reported performance was probably just a ‘flash in the pan’ and that this youngster probably wouldn’t last long. That the penny stock market would do what it does best…destroy the naive hopes and dreams of the financially illiterate.
I was at the head of the line. In fact, with an August flourish of my pen, I attempted to rain on Sean’s parade. But then the unexpected happened– Sean Dekmar sent me a fresh batch of account statements from Etrade.
The results were impressive. Too impressive. I became suspicious and contacted Etrade regarding the authenticity of the supposed account statements. It turns out that my suspicious nature was misguided. The results were authentic. Etrade verified the account statements.
The end result was that I published an update titled: Dekmar Trades *Update*. You can read that updated review by clicking the link.
The 2018 Dekmar Trades Update
Well, I keep waiting for the wheels to fall off the Sean Dekmar penny stocks bandwagon. Yet the wagon continues to lurch forward. If anything, it appears to be picking up steam. And steamrolling my secret desire to witness Sean Dekmar crash and burn.
Everyone loves a crash and burn story. When you turn on the news, do they ever report on the thousands of planes that appear to defy the laws of physics and safely land? Nope. But when a plane crashes and burns, the headlines blow up and we all say to ourselves, “sure glad I wasn’t on that shitty airliner.”
In my heart, I always assumed Sean Dekmar was a shitty pilot, flying a paper airplane through a penny stock shitstorm. Eventually, a turd would catch him square in the eye, and he would be proven a mere mortal. Except it has not happened yet.
The Dekmar Trades “Shitstorm” challenge
In mid-2017, I thought to myself, how could I create a challenge to Sean Dekmar where he was 100% guaranteed to fail? And so I thought of a sneaky challenge that best personifies the best case, hopes and dreams of the newbie day trader. To take a small account, and turn the small account into a respectable monthly income.
In my experience, the vast majority of the day traders with which I interact are small account traders. The average account size is a typical $4,000 and the expectations of these rubes and newbies are to earn $10k each month. Consistently.
Trading is hard. And to turn a $4k account into a consistent $10k monthly revenue is pretty much impossible–or so I thought. But this best personifies the scenario in which nearly all rubes and newbies desperately cling. And so I told Sean: Ok Turd Pilot, let’s see if you can pull this off.
With his youthful enthusiasm, Sean accepted the challenge. I was expecting failure and a fun follow-up “crash and burn” article. What I got was something entirely different. The following are Sean Dekmar’s verified results for the challenge period.
Dekmar Trades: Sept 2017 – April 2018
- September 2017: $1,220
- October 2017: $6758
- November 2017: $10,429
- December 2017: $12,541
- January 2018: $23,912
- February 2018: $10,671
- March 2018: $6,547
For the entire 7-month period, Sean Dekmar was not only profitable each and every month, but he managed to average an incredible $10k+ monthly net profit. Truly astounding. A total net profit of $72,083.
Account statements below:
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Yes Sean, you proved me wrong. And my constant nitpicking about your ‘trader porn’ can be met with a resounding “fuck you naysaying TradingSchools.Org!”
However, there is one bit of ‘trader porn’ in which I truly admire. No, it’s not your new Corvette, the flying around in a fighter jet, the helicopter stunt nonsense, or the vacations with unlimited shrimp cocktail. The bit of marketing wizardry that I truly admire, and warms the heart of the even the most despicable muck racking troll is the vacation to Ireland that you gave your wonderful mother. I have included the cute video that you created which dramatizes the event…
The Keys to Success
Having observed Sean Dekmar this past year has given me a unique vantage point. I have seen him grow from a newbie with a (still) crappy website that barely functioned, into a pretty decent marketer, and a really good trader.
But really, what is the secret sauce? Is it some magical trading indicator, or some super-scanner settings, or something mystical or magical that cannot be defined? Nope.
In my opinion, the real key to Sean’s success is his work ethic. Most people are probably not aware, but this guy runs the live trading room 6-hours each day, five days a week. The entire time he is interacting with the audience. Attempting to point the audience in the correct direction. And I have watched the chat session and seen the daily happenings. It’s not easy. You get every sort of character that shows up expecting to ‘get rich’ very quickly.
It’s like herding cats. I couldn’t do it.
Another thing that nobody ever talks about…the time he spends after-hours, scanning markets and looking for that potentially juicy trade that might reveal itself the next day. And the nightly videos and the constant helping of others. I wonder when he ever sleeps.
The ugly part of writing reviews
As readers are aware, TradingSchools.Org is a review website. But we also have an income component. Yep, I am an affiliate marketer for Dekmar Trades. It sounds so dirty. But the hard cold reality is that without establishing affiliate marketing relationships, this blog simply could not survive. The income that we receive is the lifeblood that fuels the production of written content, research, and LEGAL FEES.
However, as readers are also probably aware, that getting a good review with TradingSchools.Org is not easy. The standards and vetting in which a vendor must pass are grueling and revealing. It’s not fun at all.
With that being said, I want the audience to be aware of exactly what TradingSchools.Org has profited from the relationship with Dekmar Trader. The monthly cost of the Dekmar Trades chat room and educational products is $60. Of this $60, TradingSchools.Org receives $12 per subscription. The following is a screenshot of total earnings since inception:
As you can see, TradingSchools.Org receives approximately $200 to $300 in monthly income. Why show this? It’s important that all parties are aware of this arrangement, and giving everyone full transparency lets readers know that when they purchase something from Sean Dekmar, they are actually helping TradingSchools.Org.
I am not getting rich. That’s for sure. But the revenue continues the core mission of finding the best products, and uplifting those vendors that conduct ethical business. And conversely, finding the worst (my opinion) and exposing those vendors that seek to only enrich themselves and bring harm to others.
Wrapping things up
There isn’t much else this old man can write about Sean Dekmar. He doesn’t need me much anymore. As his star skyrockets across the sky, I can only watch and admire. And enjoy what little part I played in helping to bring him up the ladder.
To say that I am not a little bit envious would be a lie. Although I do not enjoy the monetary wealth that Sean is currently enjoying, the experience of writing about Sean has been immensely rewarding. I am very proud of this young man. Enough sappy words.
Recently, Sean recorded a video that talks about his trading service, his journey, his success and failures. And most importantly, what the road to success looks like. The video is long. About one hour, but its one of the best ‘journey’ trading videos that I have witnessed.
If you are new to his service, I recommend watching it. That’s it for today. Thanks for reading and enjoy the video.
I have read this entire thread and am a little baffled as to the correspondence or lack thereof on your part Emmett. I have read hundreds of your reviews and stumbled upon this one and I really liked everything about it. I did have the utmost respect for you, thinking you were literally the only one looking out for the average retail trader. Luckily I read the comment section to this review before buying anything.
Hi, it has been said that dekmar only uses paper account to trade.
A bad review from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDaOc09imHU&t=5s that Sean is not genuine as you have described him.
kindly justify your review. 🙂
Yes, I have been getting swamped with requests to investigate everything. I am working on it now.
I will get to the truth and write about exactly what I find. If you have anything you would like to add, or ask Sean, please update here.
Thanks.
-Emmett
Emmett. I guess Sean has gone dark and does not have a site anymore right https://www.screencast.com/t/Ag8sCn318yE ? Edited…I guess this is his new site https://www.tradecaster.com/home ?
Tom
I’m in the same boat as you, and I read your comment, in fact I read all of the comment. The fact that it’s July 11, 2019, and Emmett had’t “started” on the September 01, 2018 promise tells you everything you need to know what happened, and you don’t need to be a skilled trader to figure that out.
The best scams are the ones that are 15% – 25% percent (or some variation of that type of range) scams mixed with 75% of legitimate stuff. It allows the scammer to create enough doubt/conviction to lure the new prey while the authentic 75% content they created allows them to justify it to themselves.
So, what happened with all of this? I tried to find any news on the subject by Emmett but left empty handed.
I have to say, even though there is little to now chance anyone gives a dime about it, that I feel very disappointed about this case.
Been reading the site for two or three weeks now (only been in the trading world for a couple of months), so it’s been a short ride with you Emmett, but in this little period of time I learned to appreciate your work, your incredibly “high” standards in relation to the level of “teaching” all those scammers and fraudulent webs and organization provides, and your straight forward personality. Saw you as a serious person who wanted to do things right.
Sadly, all of that is now in question because of this, and in consecuence I have to stop reading it since it is not credible.
Once again, I know no one gives a shit about all I just wrote, a lone reader on the internet, but had to get it out of my chest.
Good luck to you all.
Hi Tom,
Did I get Dekmar wrong?
And yes, I care very much about what you have written.
Emmett
I actually do care what you wrote. You’re comment made me read this entire comment section and wow, I 100% agree with you. Did you get Dekmar wrong, Emmett? Hah. Read the comments.
OK, I am working on an update now.
Sorry, but how is this a review?
– does he provide any education? courses? videos? anything?
– what is his trading style? what strategies does he use?
– does he understand the importance of risk management, money management? any education on that?
– lessons on trading mindset and psychology?
– can he teach and explain concepts well?
– can anybody actually follow and copy his trades in the live room realtime?
– did you learn anything while you were in the live room that you can utilize in your trading now and make money on your own?
All you write about is how awesome and hard working this Sean guy is and that he seems to make money.
That’s all good but how does that help me? I don’t care how great he is or how much money he makes.
If I can’t replicate it or better if he can’t teach me the SKILLS so that I can do this ON MY OWN then what’s the point?
This “review” does not provide any value at all and I don’t see how it could get a 5 star rating.
First the reply buttons to previous comments have disappeared.
“Ok Jon. I will do it. But I cannot start until the first of September. And you can hold me accountable.”
Well it has now been 2 1/2 months. Are you busy moving every month? I am starting to wonder if you work for the Government regulators as they are equally slow.
How many more people have to lose money before you actually “Properly” evaluate this vendor by live trading his trade calls so you know what a con this is. I already told you to record the webinar, Sean’s Self Proclaimed Trade Claims and the actual results you get making those trades.
Maybe you need help. Tell me what the problem is:
1) Can you not set up a live trading account to your criminal past,
2) Can you not join Sean’s Room as an alias,
3) Are you suffering from arthritis and cannot hit the buy and sell button,
4) Are you afraid, contrary to your rating, you will lose your shirt and you have no money to lose or finally
5) Did your son and aunt refuse to do the task,
6) Did the philippine girl find a better boss,
7) Are you too depressed because Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House.
My lord, what a beat down. What a proper beatdown. Darn. Cannot argue with the truth.
Sorry about the commenting system being down for a few days. The developer “upgraded” it, but it instead broke it. So I have to switch back to WordPress native comments system.
Jon, you want to write your own review? I will publish it “as is.” Front and center.
I’m a former Dekmar member. (3 months) Former as of this review. I don’t doubt his verified trades but the problem is that he calls his trades quickly and most of the time, he has sold. His verified trades will not be the same as his members. I rarely followed his trades because they were too quick. He tends to buy low float with surge of volume and sells quickly. There are a few excellent traders in the room but I’m not paying nor staying for those few who are not always in the room. Again, 3 month member but I didn’t feel good about staying any longer. I felt more on my own. Also he talks waaaay too much.
If you want an excellent non-pump & dump room, I highly suggest:
https://www.livestreamtrading.com/
Jeff is the moderator and he guides you through possible trades which includes entry, exit, stop prices BEFORE he executes any trades. You know exactly his plan. Nice, relaxing room and an excellent trader. Don’t let his reserve trading demeanor fool you, he IS very passionate and cares about the members. As you can see from his social media presence – no flashy cars/half-naked women, or big house. Pure technical trading. I’ve found my mentor!
Also, additional note , Sean trades small caps premarket which is troublesome due to their violate nature and liquidity issues and more importantly, his base are new traders who should not even think about traders these small caps in premarket. If he wants to trade premarket on his own, fine but he does run a room and posts these premarket buys as his alerts. Plenty of new traders confused that he bought pre-market. When questioned, he states that the members should be waking up early to trade instead he should not be alerting these premarket buys as part of his mentor program.
I love how you come here and promote another vendor. That alone loses any credibility you might have. Assuming you are not the vendor self-promoting, have you been provided with any brokerage statements from that vendor showing proof of live trading results. I can assure you if they cannot trade live profitable no student of theirs will mysterious be able to do it.
Second on Sean, those “Members” that claim to be making money hands over fist are SHILLS! They are friends, relatives or the vendor himself in effort to sucker you in and make it seem like you are just not doing something right as others are killing it. Try and get brokerage statement from those shills and see what happens.
As far as Sean getting the trades he claims it is total BS. Now I was in the room before he had all the Emmett Subscribers so things might be different now as he does pump and dump. But back then he claimed trades that were impossible for him or anyone else to get except in a simulator. Stock with large bid ask spreads where he was buying at the bid using market orders. It was all a circus. And I am still waiting for lazy Emmett to actually make a single one of his trade calls for he actually has a clue about this con artist vendor.
I love shills and vendor sniping. Pure entertainment.
I am not the other vendor. By mentioning the other mentor, my intentions was purely based on being helpful since this website is largely based on trading room reviews. That’s all. You will know in a few days if the aforementioned room is helpful to your trading style.
Shaun, has a good understanding of what “people and the news” can drive a stock. Currently he is doing a small account challenge starting with approximately $3500 dollars. That is nice to see, BUT realistically, most newbies are limited by the PDT rule which, is no more than 3 trades per 5 day rolling period. To really mirror a small account, imhop he should follow that 3 day PDT rule.
The top rated trading system on TradingSchools.org, pays TradingSchools.org.
Learn the facts before you condemn. Sorry, I believe I have that honor of “top rated trading system” on TradingSchools.org, since I have two 5 star reviews. And I have never paid Emmett a cent, he has never asked for any kind of payment of any sort, and we have absolutely zero business connections or agreements. No conflict at all.
The only conflict here is which low rated vendor you are affiliated with, “conflict of Interest.”
I joined his room for a couple of Months starting last December. From what I could tell, he is a good trader, but not necessarily a good mentor. I do not think most people would be successful following his calls either. Much of his success was the result of the room members providing his profit by jumping in after he had already taken his position. Often the trades only provide .20 to .30 cents before turning around, and I am pretty sure his members were the ones providing most of that range. As mentioned by others, his lessons library is all over the place and contradictory in many places. I do not regret joining, as it helped solidify in my mind that playing low float penny stocks was not a pursuit that I wanted to engage in. I do think he actually trades, but is intellectually dishonest if he thinks that he is helping traders with what he is teaching. Not the worst, not the best.
OK Mark I am confused. You stated, “He is a good trader” and then state, “Much of his success was the result of the room members providing his profit by jumping in after he had already taken his position”
That is my definition of pump and dumb and not a characteristic of a good trader, but a good scammer.
You also state, “Often the trades only provide .20 to .30 cents before turning around”. On low float stocks with large bid ask spreads IMHO that means you would lose money.
I guess I have a different opinion on what makes a good trader and suckering a bunch of subscribers to pump up your holding does not qualify.
Why Sean continues to post such douchebaggery trader porn pictures of himself is beyond me. Sean is way too talented to go down that road.
If Caesar can build this bridge in 10 days, I think Caesar could set up an account and have his son start trading it within 14 days.
This is pure chaos! I’m upfront about being a Jack fan—If Caesar can build this bridge in 10 days, I think Caesar could set up an account and have his son start trading it within 14 days.
Surely you are not comparing the building of an entire civilization to setting up a trading account. Though I will predict it would be easier to build Rome than make money with Dekmar Trading.
“Surely you are not comparing the building of an entire civilization to setting up a trading account.”
No, he is just using a somewhat hackneyed idiomatic English aphorism.
interesting the range of earnings for these educators. Dekmar is generating a pretty flimsy income off of his service based on your disclosed earnings despite his great trading skill. on the other end of the spectrum, you have fools like Jason Bond and Kunal brining in $1-2M annually. Shame.
still baffled how someone like Jared Wesley can afford flashy marketing when i get the sense he brings in ~$60K/year or less in trading profits. similarly, I doubt his service generates more than $50K profits/year. Feels like he makes all his $ doing real estate.
of course i have no solid foundation on any of this speculation.
I signed up for Dekmar Trades and I have a total of 1 month of daily trading under my belt. I feel like my experience and beginner perspective would be what everyone wants. An absolute beginner engaging in Dekmar Trade services and learning via the 100+ hours of video content Sean has provided.
I’m 40% through “The New Trading for a living” by Dr. Alexander Elder, so that would influence my learning, along with some Ricky Gutierrez videos and Tim Grittani content. I only state this so full transparency of my knowledge is known.
Is there any interest in my experience being told a month from now, or 3 months from now? I’ll be happy to write a review and share my experience.
Walddo Are you trading a live account and making money
Tell us all about it.
Yes, a live account. Small amount, $400 currently, will add $100 each payday. I’ve only traded for a month, so I’m going to learn with a small account, but live – not paper, to experience the emotions. I only just started in the chat room today, but i’ll be happy to report every 2 weeks or whatever Emmett or Mod deems proper.
My first day in the chat was awesome. I can elaborate and give detail, but I feel most wouldn’t care and just want to see/hear/verify profits & losses.
I’m trading from a Robinhood account as well. Total beginner setup and circumstances here guys.
I’ll defer to a mod to dictate the next best course of action on my part.
You are trading Penny Stocks with a $400 account. Assuming you are only risking 5% of your account on any given trade that would be $20 per trade. I cannot see how one could do this.
Are you risking your entire account on each trade. Yes, let us know how this works out, should be interesting.
BTW, there is something seriously wrong with this recaptcha. You have to do it again and again and again before it finally works. For example when it says street sign are you suppose to check the boxes with just the street post or boxes if only a small part of the street signs is showing. Get another program.
I can understand your confusion. So you’re aware, Dek states his strategy with a $4,000 account is to have position sizes of at least 1,000 shares. And yes the entire account on each trade, with a tight stop loss.
I plan to save money and build my capital. I’ll report back when I have a $4,000 account and I’m trading in line with Dek’s trading strategy.
Waldo. Any updates on your trades with Dekmar? Do you mind sharing with us?
Walddo
Any update to how you’re doing?
Theres an alerts chat where you can see how much people make/lose.
These people are just straight up haters.
Gian
Can this people show account statements that proves they’re are making money?
Yes indeed. This would settle the debate. Jack’s point is also well taken. Where are all the subs with proof that they are making money in Dekmar’s room? And of course the good ol’ “If you’re making 10K a month why are you bothering with subs who pay you $60 a month?” Granted, if you have 1000 of them then that makes sense but would you have started a trading room business if you were already making good cash trading?
This is a great debate. Apparently, Jared over at LiveTraders has been reading the comments and sent me an email today. He wanted to way into the controversy. He claims to have some students that are doing really well. So that might be an article that will be posted shortly.
Alert chat where anyone can brag about a sim winner. What more proof could one possible ask for than that. BTW many of the zero review vendors also have boxes where people can brag about their winners.
Haters .vs blind faith believers. That is the question. I notice you did not mention your results. Maybe when you actually try and take some of those penny stock trades in a live account you will have your answer.
Jon
So how much money are you making per month.
Seriously Trader that is your response,
What difference would it make. I never said I day traded. In fact I think day trading the way these vendors teach it is a fools game. I simple replied to Gian post:
“Theres an alerts chat where you can see how much people make/lose.”
And I said that people bragging in a chat box tells you nothing. In fact I think you had a similar response, so maybe you should be asking yourself that same question.
I tried Dekmar room back when Emmett first recommended it and to anyone that has gone in that room he is obvious trading sim.
So Emmett is either a complete fool, which we know he is not, or in on the scam. Sadly, Emmett has become just like his old buddy Dean Handley. Emmett, do you and Dean go out to lunch and laugh about all the suckers you are scamming. I hear Dekmar now has over a 1000 subscribers. Let’s do the math 1000 * 60 = $60K a month, not a bad scam. And for only $60.00 most people think why not try it.
As already written about in other post from the original review, Sean does not even take the trade alerts he posts, as if he did he would lose money.
He is trading low float breakouts with large bid and ask spreads. All the subscribers that trade it get large slippage, yet miraculous Sean gets in at the bid price. This can only be done by trading sim.
In the original thread I Showed exactly how this guy is running this scam and I would suggestion everyone read that before being a scam statistic. Sadly most people just read Emmett’s review and not the comments to learn the truth.
Emmett, sad you have gone down the Dean Handley path. I love the joke challenge you gave Sean. Really you pump this guy up to over 1000 suckers and he then pumps and dumps to make money. How about a real challenge?
Here is what you do:
1) 1st open a real brokerage account,
2) Go into Sean’s room and actually live trade Sean’s trades,
3) Make a live video opening that brokerage account and show all the trades and profits after 1-3 months.
I don’t need a crystal ball to know what will happen. Sean will make money while you go bust. Being you claim you will be able to turn a $4,000 account into making $10,000 a month there is no reason not to take this challenge. The funny thing is Emmett says he was in the room, yet apparently he did not take a single trade, because if he did he would quickly realize this is a scam. Gosh, you don’t think he is on the scam.
But I will make a bet if Emmett replies; it will be with some lame response and he will not take this challenge, because he knows the whole thing is one big scam.
The only person making money in Sean’s room is Sean and Emmett. If all the subscribers all losing money what is the point.
Emmett, if you are not going to take the very reasonable challenge then I am not even interested in your lame response.
Hi Jack,
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Sean’s account statements are authentic. I know because we logged in via screen share and pulled the data directly.
Regarding the ‘front running’ – I am not seeing this. Why? When I drafted my original review of Sean, he had nobody in his trading room. So there was nobody to front run. Yet, he had also had verifiable results.
What am I missing here?
First, in your original review, before he had 1000s of members, you never mentioned anything about checking his account live, but there are many ways of doing this including setting up multiple account and showing the one that made money.
I have been in his room and actually traded his trade and as I posted in your original write up there is no way he is legit. Seriously the fact that he posts a trade alert and then takes a different trade, should tell you all you need to know about this character.
In addition to that if you read the comments from your past articles, student after student came forth and said all they did was lose money following his trade calls and not a single student has come forth and showed proof with backed by brokerage statements that they have made money. Over a 1000 students and not one can show they have made a dime.
What you have done is step 1, the beginning process, now do step 2 and actually open a brokerage account and trade his trades. What are you afraid of? Oh, I know the truth and no more commissions.
As far as I am concerned when you give this vendor a 5 stars you have a due divergence to actual make sure it is not a big con.
Instead of responding with excuses, explain why you refused to actual trade his trade calls. If you are too busy hire that girl from Asian to trade his trades and let her keep all the winnings. Then it does not take your time and she gets to make money, a win win.
Emmett, step up to the plate and have someone actually trade his calls. Seriously how hard is that to do.
Jack, Thx for the candid views and inputs. Basically, producing $10k returns on $4k account month after month i.e. 150%/month is out of the logic. Why is he just relying on $59/month sign ups. Why not call up $10B hedge fund and trade for them making millions each month. Thx again !!
1000 subs? $60k a month? I wish it were true!
My affiliate commission is posted. $200 – $300 per month. Hardly a scam.
Regardless, I respect your opinion.
Emmett
He was talking about Dekmar making $60k a month not you.
Something is not right here I can smell it from across the Atlantic.
Correct but Emmett was only saying that if Dekmar was making 60K a month his affiliate commissions should be much higher than $200-$300 a month.
many of us including myself have said many times over the years, can the subs be profitable in a room that offers service. It always comes back to def ears, so maybe its just part of gaming the system for whatever reasons but it sure seems very sketchy even with 5 star to da moon recommendations. Even with a 4k cash account like others have suggested producing 10k per month just does not add up. Is he trading pink sheets that run up 5000%? Did Emmet copy his trades to see if it is remotely achievable? Has ANYONE in that room besides Jack can say nay or yey? Maybe I am jaded to the point that it doesn’t matter imo the whole damn sub service is corrupt to its core and absolutely predatory.
I think we should give this the ‘teenager’ test. I have a 16-year-old kid, that is going nowhere really fast. What do you think of this idea? I fund a small account for the kid, plug him into Dekmar Trades, and then let’s see what happens?
My kid knows nothing about stock trading. Let’s see if Sean can push the kid into profit. Whatever happens, it will be fun to observe.
Don’t know if the ‘teenager test’ was a joke. Losing faith in tradingschools.org — depressing, after Emmett helped me avoid a scam. I don’t know jack about Jack but his reviews (in comments) of Dekmar was convincing. Emmett’s credibility is on the line.
Or how about my 73-year-old Auntie. When I mention stocks, she thinks I am saying socks. Plug dear old Auntie into Dekmar and see what happens. Should we go with the 73-year-old Auntie, or the 16-year-old?
As long as the person is not associate with Sean, it does not matter who makes the trades, as they will be placing trades based on Sean’s trade calls.
What matter is following through on this plan. You should easily have that account up and running next week and then start showing the brokerage statement each week after that.
Should be interesting, after all that 16 year old kid or 73 year old Auntie will making boats load of money. LOL!
Let us know when you will be doing this, I might rejoin the room and record the trades to make sure all is above board.
guys, no one can copy someone else and be succesfull, period. all of this bs chat is for nothing, the blog everything. People need to stop trying to copy others and figure it out.
^I back this on copying someone else. Going on a rant here… but you’re eventually gonna crash and burn following people and trying to replicate their trades. Modern rock on twitter quoted, “Give a man a stock tip, and you feed him for a day; show him how to trade, and you feed him for a lifetime.” Trading is a journey and a process, through screen time, patience, reading price action, learning and improving on yourself and finding your niche setups, patterns, trading style that suits your personality. On the other side of the level 2 are people, institutions, algos. It’s war. It’s like a fish swimming in with sharks. When all is said and done, people that have busted their butts honing their craft and adapting are the ones that will consistently make it in the market. Your competition is studying, analyzing, planning to prepare for next trades. How about you? Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. The results of your realized profit/loss day by day, month to month, year over year will reflect your efforts and how badly you want to be successful. It’s NOT a get rich quick scheme. I used to keep having losing months until I joined Dekmar’s chatroom last November. I found it suited my style of trading, it may not suit others. But I did not rely on the alerts, I used his lessons and experiences as a foundation to build upon. Do not just blindly enter an alert like sheep because someone else says it. Have your own reason, validity on why you are entering the stock and stick to your plan. I treat trading as a business, and you are its sole manager. Success leaves a trail, it leave clues on becoming a consistently profitable trader.
Perhaps this is the best message in this thread. Copying someone is like two people driving fast towards a wall and the only difference between them is one of them knows when to depress brake pedal while another one is only waiting for a signal to do so. I would stop respecting myself if I dared copy someone.
Yes I think most folks would agree you have to learn to trade on your own. But my point is Sean is a fraud and anyone in his room that actual tries to take his trades will learn this the hard way. It is not just the fact that he post trade alerts that he does not trade or the fact that he does not have his chart trader on so subscribers can see his trades in advance, but I am telling you it is impossible to make the trades he claims he makes. Yes IMPOSSIBLE!!! In many situations, he is trading low float stocks with large bid and ask spreads and his claimed entry and exit cannot possible be made in a live account.
The point of actually trying to copy his trades, is not only will you lose money, but the trades he claims he makes cannot be made. And it does not take many fake trades to turn a losing trader into looking like a brilliant one. I think it is an important material fact for the article to actual take Sean’s trades and determine if one could actual trade Sean’s trade calls profitable.
Emmette, It has been over 1 week since you said your kid is interested. It should not take very long to setup an account and have him trade Sean’s trade calls. How about a status update. I hope this is not going to be an unfulfilled promise.
I meant Harley’s message was the best in this thread.
Oh I’m doing it. My kid seems interested.
But my 73 year old Auntie would be fun as well. She say’s she is 73. But now that I think about it…she has been saying she is 73 for the past several years! Lol!
16 year old. I’ve tried Sean’s room a few times and it is true he front runs. Especially now that he has a lot of subs. I believe Sean makes money and is good at what he does. I also believe his trades are impossible to replicate due to the low float and lag between when he alerts. I’ve experienced it first hand. I’m 99% sure your 16 year old won’t make money over the long run with Sean. A bit disappointed you did not do as thorough of a review from a followability aspect Emmett. Please do the challenge as I’d love to be proven wrong but I’m confident I’ll be proven right
Right, I’ve done a week and a half with Sean and couldn’t work in that environment. His Sports announcer call outs really screwed up my zone and had me making stupid decisions. His enthusiasm that people love is poison. He will very easily usher people into trades based on his “$ADTI, this is getting that volume, it’s getting volume. Now what are we looking for? We’re looking for a descending triangle, descending triangle. Why? Why? Because it’ll consolidate, build a channel and rip to $4.50, it’ll rip to $4.50. Now guys I’m not in a trade, I’m not in a trade.”
Maybe that sing song style works for some, but it was incredibly distracting and while I appreciate the commentary and quick lessons, having that eagerness and enthusiasm for every single momentum stock and call out confused the hell out of me.
Also, the website is garbage. Cache issues galore. The video library is also a mess, no order to learn in, just random topics whenever Sean felt the urge to record a topic. I guess that’s fine for finding certain topics, but what is the strategy then? He states “using my strategy, I want to earn money with you”, or something close, so what’s the strategy? Just random stock topics that fit when applicable? Should I always look for a mid candle break ou? Is that a better setup then a trendline pattern?
That’s my point. There is no focus.
I also don’t understand how he market orders trades. I’ve witnessed it and he somehow gets a great fill on TD Ameritrade or e trade (he supposedly opened a TD Ameritrade account but still uses e trade level 2). I followed him on one trade and he exited the trade well before I had a chance to and I lost out on any profit and it was a losing trade. My fault. Should never follow, but what the heck is the point of your alert box that you don’t use yourself or reflects your positions and you maneuver out of an obvious non-sense/pump/runner?
Anyways. I’m at a lost. I believe Emmett verified the E Trade statements, but I also know Sean Dekmar could easily be living off his membership fees, merchandise and seminar in July he is selling tickets for.
I wanna say he’s a skilled trader that is just not a very structured teacher and that lack of clarity nullifies the educational value for me.
As much as I wanna believe he really wants people to learn, Dekmar Trades really doesn’t smell that much differently then the rest of em (Warrior Trading, etc etc).
Walddo,
No one can operate in that environment. Sean is another scam artist. If he could trade profitable he would not make the murky calls he does in the manner he does. And anyone that actually went to the room and tried to make his trade calls would quickly see this is the case, which makes me wonder what the Hell was Emmett doing when he said he was in the trade room. Emmett would have to be either clueless or he is clearly in on the scam. And considering Emmett is a an expert in penny stocks I doubt he is clueless.
If Emmett is legit then he should have responded and be taking the challenge he said he would take. Been 2 weeks now since he said he would have his son take Sean’s trade calls. Where are the brokerage statements showing how that trading is going. My guess is the kid would have blown the account by now while Sean is bragging to high heaven all the money he made. Still Waiting!
Dang. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Rome was not built in a day, but they were laying brick every day and built an impossible bridge in 10 days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPnBVHSeZc
If Caesar can build this bridge in 10 days, I think Caesar could set up an account and have his son start trading it within 14 days.
Surely you are not comparing the building of an entire civilization to setting up a trading account. Though I will predict it would be easier to build Rome than make money with Dekmar Trading.
This is a simple task to accomplish, how about a simple update as I said I want to rejoin the room and record everything to make sure all is on the up and up.
It has been 30 days and still not a peep from Emmett. It should take about 10 minutes to fill out an online brokerage account form and another 10 minutes to electronically transfer and fund that new brokerage account. So let’s say you took a 10 minute coffee break, that would be 30 minutes, yet 30 days has past.
In the old days in 30 days, Emmett would have scammed at least 5 little old ladies out of their live savings on some penny stocks scam, yet now he cannot even open up a brokerage account and make some live trades!
If Caesar told his general to accomplish this task and it took 30 days that general would have been publicly executed.
Using hackneyed idiomatic English aphorism, Is Emmett a sleep at the switch? BTW did I use those words right CYN, as those are mighty highfalutin words for me.
Of course there is one likely reason and that his Emmett opened the account and he was immediately wiped out as Sean’s trade calls are a complete joke, but if wrote that; that would mean no more sweet commission check to poor old Emmett.
Geez Jack, have to love your wit and analogies.
You should be writing for the blog!
Hi Emmet. So after receiving numerous 2 week free trial emails and trader porn, I gave Sean’s room another try and here’s what happened: The first day I made about $300. The next day I couldn’t get into his trade in time so didn’t make anything. The third day I made $900 on a trade that he made $10,000 on (he entered his shares in the premarket before I was logged on). So I thought, wow, maybe I was wrong about this guy, this is fun, making money is easy! Then I calmed myself down and thought the real tell will be on a day where he has a losing trade. When I logged into the site he had an alert to buy Cali above $4, I got in at 4.07 and then some at 4.03. The Stop was posted to be 3.88. But then his commentary was saying support at 3.75. I put my stop in based on the alert at 3.88, it wicked down and stopped me out at 3.82. Then soon after Deck said he got out at 3.98 for .03c loser and then he changed the Alert box to show a stop loss of 3.99!! Very sketchy! So I asked in chat “Dek can you show us your Ameritrade filled orders for CALI?” and no response. So then I asked again, “Dek can you show us your Ameritrade fills for CALI so we can get an idea of exactly when you got in and out?”. He replied on the mic, “sure just email me and I will send them to you”. I thought this was strange because when he made $10K he couldn’t stop flashing his Ameritrade fills all over the screen and Twitter. So I thought, ok well I guess I’ll just email him. Then two minutes later a banner comes on my chat htat says “YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED” and my chat no longer worked. I logged out of my account and tried logging back in by my password wouldn’t work. So I clicked to have a new password but received the message that my account does not exist. And today I receive a paypal message that my payments to Dekmar have been disabled by the vendor. I emailed them to ask what was going on but no reply. All of this because I simply asked for transparency? wow. Really disappointed. And really disappointed you haven’t taken the challenge of trying to have your son or someone else follow the site. I think at the end of the day anyone who questions the validity of certain trades just gets blocked from chat. So although I believe he makes money trading, (I believe this based on your research and reviews) I don’t believe anyone else will be able to make money in the long run, and he is simply churning through trader after trader and collecting fees using his trader porn. Really disappointed. I hope you reply. I have screen shots of all of this for anyone who would like to see. Here’s the link.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N56o3qxNXSEatyGOdSk_ynvTsPtp-TktQ7-xb1T0iCc/edit?usp=sharing
Let’s see he had a Trade Alert to buy a low float large bid ask spread stock at $4.01 and a stop loss of $3.99. You would buy and and be stopped out in a nanosecond.
I think that Emmett also had to secure the cooperation of a teenager and that’s no easy feat, so cut him some slack Jack.
Yes I am sure the reason Emmett has not taken a single trade called out by Sean is that he cannot get his kid or Aunt to cooperate. A bit odd being they should make money hands over fist.
Maybe that is the same reason not a single one of the hundreds of members that have been scammed to join this trade room cannot show a single brokerage statement showing any profitability.
Just how much slack do you think someone giving a 5 star review of a trading room, whereby the author does not even take a single trade called out by the trade room operator deserves; 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 10 years?
When nothing is accomplished in the next 30 days I will inquire again.
The points that you have raised are valid Jack and I think you are probably correct, you can’t make money trading the stocks that Dekmar trades. I have not checked out his room because when I read low float, low priced no name companies I think it’s a mugs game. But my comment was that Emmett said he would try to get his teenage son to trade those stocks. There’s probably a better chance of making money trading Dekmar’s picks that there is of getting a 16 year old to something he doesn’t have to or want to do.
“Using hackneyed idiomatic English aphorism, Is Emmett a sleep (sic) at the switch? BTW did I use those words right CYN, as those are mighty highfalutin words for me.”
That sounds about right, albeit there is a typo: “asleep” is a single word.
It would appear that you are pretty familiar with some highfalutin words yourself. All the best. 🙂
Emmet,
Thx for the review. One question: are these $10k/month trades “followable” i.e. would subscriber be able to take them and produce even 80% of the results? Is so, then this service is exceptional. If Sean is merely producing a daily watchlist and saying this looks good and that can be good, then it makes no benefit for the subscriber. Does Sean send the SMS or Alerts to subscribers on the stocks that he took into his own trading account? Also, any chance to look each month statements on trade by trade basis like you have been able to get for several other services. Thx again.
I’ll tell you how it works, he would recommend a low float stock to buy in his chat room after he bought some, and sells it probably within a minute of posting in the room, after all the sheeple buy it. I can easily be proved wrong by the time stamps of the actual buys vs when he posts to the room, but im sure you wont get that detail
I can get that detail. If he is pumping, it’s very subtle. From my vantage point, just from sitting in the room, it appears these trades are maturing.
Another thing, when I first reviewed Sean, he had zero audience. Yet he still had great results. So he could not have been pumping.
Emmett
If you can get that detail on the time stamps the actual buys vs when he ports to the room. That will be very helpful
For all os us.
Thank you
Did some casual research on Dekmar and “pump and dump” allegations was there but guy did not prove anything except for pointing the finger. Another person said $59/month is just a basic appetizer. If you want more then you have to buy other services. Both these comments were on some youtube vid on Dekmar.
Awaiting time-stamp information…
Hi Emmett, I agree with Amit above, wondering how much his subscribers are making otherwise it could be “Pump & Dump” scheme, like what Ross from warrior trading does. Another way to find out this is to ask trading room operator to take 1 extra un-announced trade each day & see how much he makes on in-announced trades.
We need a student. That is making money. That will be my next write up…a student of Dekmar Trades.
Some quick followers (with hot keys programmed) can make money at the expense of others in the room, same happens in warrior trading room too, not everyone loses money there. This very much looks like warrior trading except he shared trades with you.
You know I am not hating on dekmar and if he can make it great for him, but this blog has very astute audience and have some skin in the game. I wonder how is he making 10k per month average in an e-trade account with the subjective 4k account. I mean that would mean he is not day trading at all in an E*TRADE account since the PDT rule requires a 25k account anything less his account would be tagged if he trades like you suggest. Am I missing something ? let’s assume that he is trading a 4k account as suggested and clearing 10k per month that would be absolutely incredible since he is subject to the PDT rule. I think there is A LOT missing here to explain the massive gains and once again not hating on Dekmar but he is subject to extreme scrutiny since he has paid sub service I would triple check everything and get the facts straight before jumping head over heels in victory dance.
I have more surprised by this kid than anyone. I keep waiting for the shit to hit the fan. And he is doing it on an Etrade account? Which has a built-in front-running mechanism.
Biglou
He only makes one trade a day.
Then he cannot exceed more than 4 trading days per week or else his account would get flagged as PDT , IF so then its insane he can make that kind of return on 4k without blowing up, I am sure once he got clear of the 25k he was able to trade a lot more positions.
He trades a cash account. No PDT rule for a cash account, but the funds must settle after the trades.
So he’s trading options then? On OTC stocks? I must be missing part of the story.
right, which takes up to 3 business days to settle, according to my broker – TD Ameritrade
The PDT rule applies to margin accounts, but not to cash accounts.
Take the 2 week free trial and see how it goes for you Amit.
wow…. just wow…
I guess everyone out there is really a scammer after all. *sigh* back to the day job.
“I guess everyone out there is really a scammer after all”
Toby, you are one of the few wise ones to figure it out. That everyone includes Emmett who selects which rooms he will approve and then gets a cut.
I know this as I too tried Dekmar and know Jack who confronted Emmett on this matter. And what Emmett does not tell you is he secretly bans people. The reason Jack has not posted a recent reply is Emmett Banned him and refuses to post any of this comments.
You see Emmett only lets the negative comments come through that he likes that make him seem like an honest broker but don’t directly confront him on his integrity and getting a cut of Dekmar’s Scam.
The only folks making money on Dekmar’s Room is Emmett and Sean! They were probably cell mates back in the day.
Jack skyped me his post that Emmett refused to post and I am posting it. I wonder it will get through and how long it will be before the Self Appointed Trading Room Evaluator removes it.
Straight from Jack:
“This is now my 5th time posing this reply and yet Emmett is not approving the post so I am trying again. This in itself tells you what is really going on here. I think it is time for the investigators to investigate Emmett and his shady dealings.
Over 60 days and still NOTHING!!!
What a surprise; Not.
Emmett you have proven your word means nothing. As Judge Judy says, once you have been shown to be a liar nothing you say can be trusted.
You have lied about how you would actually take or have someone else take Dekmar’s trade calls and hopefully show proof, via brokerage account statements, of your results; therefore nothing you say can be believed.
It is a shame how you collect your commission check off this con artist who is scamming old retirees out of their critical saving and yet you have never even taken a single one of his trade to see the Truth for yourself.
Just curious, do you laugh all the way to the bank about the suckers you have conned out of their desperately needed money with hopes of making fast easy money?
Truly Unbelievable!!!! What else can I say. And for goodness sake don’t reply back with some lame BS excuse as there is no excuse. In fact you ought to just go back to running your penny stock scams.
Oh, wait you are doing it by just collecting commissions off your 5 star “Complete Joke” review.
And I know as I actually did take Dekmar’s trades and you notice how not a single student has come forth and provided any proof of their success in the room.
Even a person with a below average IQ can figure this one out.”
Hi Jon,
Thanks for commenting. As far as banning anyone, I don’t have any control over anyone being banned at Dekmar Trades. And all user comments are posted. If delayed, its because you are a first-time commenter which requires that I approve the IP address to avoid spammers. Sorry for any delay, but I get about 15,000 bot spam comments each day.
And rest assured that I am not getting rich in subscription fees. Have been completely transparent with the audience. About $200 a month. Not getting rich.
My goal is pretty simple, I want to find the best and expose the worst. Exposing the worst has brought me much pain and frustration. For instance, in 2017 alone, I have spent over $50k of my own money on legal expenses defending my opinion. As well as the opinion of others. This is the only blog on the internet where this industry is being exposed. Does this mean that TradingSchools.Org is a paragon of virtue? Do I always get it right? Am I batting 1000% percent? Not a chance. I get a lot of reviews wrong and when I do, I always correct it. Read the review on Axia Futures which is a perfect example.
Regarding Sean, I still believe he is an honest person. He was making money trading penny stocks before I ever reviewed him. Back before he had any audience at all. Back when he was trading in his underwear and nobody knew about him.
In my multiple reviews of Sean, I always give a huge warning to the audience regarding penny stocks. They are the hardest darn things to make money at. The spreads are wide, the swings are crazy, the volume is unpredictable, hucksters and sharks manipulate the prices to flush out the weakest players. It is a crazy place. It is a place I won’t step foot.
We all have to find a market in which we can thrive. I like ETF’s and mechanical systems. For you, it might be something else. But keep at it, keep trying. You will find your place in this great big mess of a market.
Please keep commenting and sharing your opinions. The toughest opinions, just like yours, are the opinions that I appreciate the most. People should back up their dump truck and unload whatever good or bad they have to unload. And not fear of being banned for comments or harsh opinions.
“Regarding Sean, I still believe he is an honest person”
How the HELL would you know as you have not taken a single one of his trades. If you actual did you would quickly realize he is a typical day trading room operator con artist, because it is impossible to get the trades he claims he is getting.
And if you actual tried to take one of his trades you would quickly learn this.
The only way this guy can show any money being made is via pump and dump or having multiple accounts and only showing you the profitable one.
You said you would actual take his trades, yet it has now been 3 month and nothing. DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! and don’t say this guy is honest again until you do it. That way you might have a clue what you are talking about.
TAKE HIS DAMN TRADE CALLS!!!!!!!!!!!! Is there anything in that sentence you do not understand? If you are not going to do that then remove the 5 star rating as you are just scamming other people.
But you must be aware of this as not a single student, not one DAMN one has come forth and showed they are making any money with his trade calls.
How you can sit there with your smirk smile like martin Shkreli and never even taken a single one of his trade calls is mind blowing. You have to be completely corrupt or in on the scam. I can see no other logical reasoning.
BTW don’t say you don’t have time as you stated you spent a week with AXIA watching his trades. And if you don’t have time to take his trades then don’t post a 5 STAR review on a service you never even used.
Ok Jon. I will do it. But I cannot start until the first of September. And you can hold me accountable.
Yes Jon everything you said is 100% correct. I know someone that was in his room and was the bag holder of Dekmar trades. In the beginning when Sean started he was great but now is just a true pump and dumped that’s into trader porn now. Really unfortunate.
For Christ sakes Emmet, don’t flail us now.
Looks like Emmett has been disheartened after Amit revealed the numbers didn’t add up (didn’t see any new article after that).
Just to let you know Emmett we.still appreciate & find value in your articles/analysis.
What is today…. the 14th?
“But I cannot start until the first of September”
Time for accountability as I am sick and tired of Sean’s lies. Today he is bragging about how he made $10K.
Well Emmett where is the $10K you made today following this scammer advice trading a live account?
What will your excuse be now. You should have a solid 20 days of trading under your belt. Well a little less when factoring in weekends.
“But I cannot start until the first of September. And you can hold me accountable.”
When the HELL is this Accountability going to Start? Does Accountable mean something different to you than the dictionary version?
Everyday more and more people are being scammed by this con artist and his ridiculous claims of profitability.
It has been OVER A MONTH!
WHERE ARE THOSE BROKERAGE STATEMENTS SHOWING YOUR RESULTS OF TRADING SEAN’S TRADE CALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to see a video of you taking his trade calls as he calls them and then showing your actual Live Trading results .vs Sean’s Self-Proclaimed Results. It should be hilarious.
I kinda got distracted.
If you were distracted by the Kavanaugh / Dr. Ford hearings then I can understand, but any other excuse is unacceptable.
When are you going to sneak in the room and trade the trade calls just like any other member?
And let me repeat it is not about you need to learn to trade on your own, it is about his claimed results are completely fake as you will find out after taking his trade calls.
If you were distracted by the Kavanaugh / Dr. Ford hearings then I can understand, but any other excuse is unacceptable.
When are you going to sneak in the room and trade the trade calls just like any other member?
And let me repeat it is not about you need to learn to trade on your own, it is about his claimed results are completely fake as you will find out after taking his trade calls.
Brutal. You guys are really holding my feet to the fire.
Can I at least get my move done this week? And then get everything unloaded and settled next week?
Dont get me started on Kavanaugh/Dr Ford. What a mess.
Emmett Maybe you can add “user ratings” (by verified users) to the review. Or still better users who have complaints can post snippets of recorded chat room sessions.
im not a trader but ive dabbled with 1-5000 in options market.Penny st0cks trading is for scalping with keen precision.the problem is risk management when YOU up the anny with size or margin . I like dekmar and warrior trading the best but don’t be jealous for the 500k plus they make on their subscribers……every month they are just getting paid and besides that two very hard workers
“Can I at least get my move done this week? And then get everything unloaded and settled next week?”
Once again Time UP!!!!!
Con Artist Sean is starting what he calls the, “Small Account Challenge” to sucker more people out of their money. But this provides a great time Emmett to finally take his trades. Anyone want to bet that the only person that makes money from Sean’s Small Account Challenge is Sean, as he once again does not trade his own posted trade calls, does not show any DOM or Chart Trader on the screen to see when he really takes his trades. Pure Con Game 101.
Emmett how many students have come forth with proof showing all the money they have made from this con man? Let me guess; NONE.
How many more people have to be ripped off and lose money before you actually take this vendor’s trade calls and experience the complete nonsense yourself?
When are they going to crack down on stock trading con artist so I can report this con man.
You need to record the session showing your trades based on his calls and then show your trade results .vs his self-proclaimed results. It should be hilarious.
The real question is can you do without the payoff money.